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 Subject :Firmware 0.4.x incompatible with earlier versions.. 2011-01-27- 02:00:15 
KR4FM
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Location: Chapel Hill, North Carolina
 
Forum : Firmware
Topic : Firmware 0.4.x incompatible with earlier versions

Thanks for the great work on the HSMM-MESH firmware.

I am trying to understand what makes the 0.4.0 and 0.4.1 firmware incompatible with the 0.3.3 and earlier firmware.  The 'firmware change log' indicates "updated to olsr 0.6.0 - firmware upgrade required, configuration not compatible with 0.3.3 or older firmware'

I ask because I have some Ubiquiti Pico-Station 2HPs, and Bullet M2HPs that are flashed with OpenWRT Kamikaze and Backfire images that used to work with the 0.3.3 firmware, and no longer work with the 0.4.1 firmware.  In addition, there are a number of members in my local club that will need to upgrade, if I upgrade the deployed images. (One is up a tower at 1,000 feet).

I have flashed a Bullet M2HP with Backfire 10.3.1 rc-2, and installed the 0.6.0 package for OLSRD, and the plugins.  I modified the OLSR configuration to contain the same parameters as the WRT54GL 0.4.1 configuration.  This communicates fine with the 0.3.3 HSMM-MESH firmware, as well as the 0.5.6 OLSRs on the other Kamikaze and Backfire images. It "sees" the 0.4.1 WRT54GL, but can not communicate with it (per HTTPINFO).

Multiple WRT54GLs flashed with HSMM-MESH 0.4.1 firmware work well with each other.

Can someone share with me the 'secret sauce' that causes the incompatibility between versions?

 

Quick addition:  If I disable 'LoadPlugin "olsrd_secure.so.0.5" in all versions of the routers, everything works fine.  So the incompatibility appears to be in the support of authenticating the OLSR nodes, between different versions, and different hardwares.  Interesting trivia.  With 'olsrd_secure.so.0.5' enabled, the two WRT54GLs running HSMM-MESH 0.4.1 talk to each other, and a WRT54GL running OpenWRT 8.09.1.  The two PicoStation2HPs can talk to each other, but none of the other routers.  The BulletM2HP won't talk with anyone.

For my purposes, I will just comment out the LoadPlugins.

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 Subject :Can we get a Geographical Forum for the SFBay Area?.. 2011-01-26- 16:18:43 
K6JEB
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Location: El Sobrante, California
 
Forum : General
Topic : Can we get a Geographical Forum for the SFBay Area?

Howdy,

We've got some folks interested in building-out the hsmm-mesh here in the Bay Area.  It would be nice to keep everything in one place so we can affect maximum visibility for the HSMM-MESH project as a whole, and in our particular regions.

What say?

73,

Jack, K6JEB

PS - I have 1 WRT54Gv2 with the latest HSMM-MESH firmware installed and running great (I've managed to gateway with no problem into my other WRT54Gv2 running as a plain old Internet Router . . . soon to be also dedicated as an HSMM-MESH node [I've got some Ubiquiti Bullet2HP's on the way as a replacement]).

 

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 Subject :PoE any good or bad thoughts?.. 2011-01-21- 04:37:11 
K4RJJ
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Joined: 2011-01-08- 11:57:13
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Location: Dallas GA
Forum : Hardware
Topic : PoE any good or bad thoughts?

Are there any bad brands out there?  Does anyone make one that has Powerpoles built in?

What brand is everyone using?  I want to buy about 3 sets that will work on very long ethernet runs.

Thanks!

Ronny

K4RJJ

 

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 Subject :SUCCESS!.. 2011-01-21- 04:26:55 
K4RJJ
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Joined: 2011-01-08- 11:57:13
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Location: Dallas GA
Forum : Hardware
Topic : SUCCESS!

Ordered 2 64GLs from Amazon.  They both flashed and configured perfectly as I knew they would!

Can't wait till my pigtails get here so I can install one at the house and one in the van. 

More to come.  I plan to show this off at our club meeting next week.

Thanksagain!

K4RJJ

Ronny

Anyone in GA besides me doing this?  Lets get together and build some backbones.

 

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 Subject :Re:getting started into network... 2011-01-21- 02:50:41 
K5KFH
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Topic : getting started into network.

Thanks for the info, I will be looking much deeper into this line of communication. My shack is currently being re-built, I have an ICOM 751 for HF, currently I have only listened with it, because I have not had a good antenna. I also use a Yasue 7100 & an FT 60. When I pull my shack together, I plan on being able to commuicate on or off the grid. I have only been a ham for about 3 years and I am "just starting" to get to learn all the technology that's available. I am looking to purchase some equipment to finish out my shack; a good antenna or two & a good base station VHF, UHF. I am also interested in MW applications. I could use some help setting up & programming once the shack is finished. What are the recommendations for a good all around HF antenna (money IS an issue, and other add ons for HF, VHF, UHF? K5KFH
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 Subject :Digital Tuesday.. 2011-01-20- 20:01:37 
ae5ae
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Location: Van Alstyne, TX
Forum : Plano
Topic : Digital Tuesday

Kip Moravec, AE5IB, is putting together a 'Digital Tuesday' meeting in the Plano area of North Texas. The idea is to be have a gathering similar to the Digital Wednesday that the Austin Development group holds.  While WiFi will probably be our main interest we'd be happy to divert to other things like packet, WinLink, APRS, and maybe even some HF digital modes.  Who knows!!?

If you'd be interested in attending please email Kip at kip@kdream.com or me, Rusty, at kd4wlz@gmail.com.

More details available as we make them up! :-)

-Rusty-

P. S.  Current thinking is that we'll be meeting more than once a month.

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 Subject :Re:Why not 3 Ghz?.. 2011-01-20- 19:19:33 
ae5ae
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Topic : Why not 3 Ghz?

Yeah, but there's nothing like getting "stuck" with using equipment from only one manufacturer with limited availability, is there??? :-)
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 Subject :Re:getting started into network... 2011-01-20- 19:13:43 
ae5ae
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Location: Van Alstyne, TX
Forum : General
Topic : getting started into network.

Welcome!

Probably the best gear is the Linksys/Cisco WRT54GL (note the L) wireless router.  The older versions of the WRT54G and 'GS will work too, versions 1.x thru 4.x that is. The newer versions do not have the amounts of RAM nor FLASH memories to load our version of the OpenWRT firmware.

Another thing to do is to go wandering through this website, reading and soaking up all you can. The more you know about TCP/IP networking the better. If you don't even the "TCP/IP for Dummies" would be a good started book!

Oh yeah.... we like to have fun around here so get used to it! :-)

73

-Rusty-

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 Subject :getting started into network... 2011-01-20- 15:18:06 
K5KFH
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Topic : getting started into network.

I just heard about this network,  Way Cool, I like it.  I know very little about this subject but plan to learn more.  Anyone out there who can help me set up with the right gear? K5KFH.

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 Subject :Re:Webinar was great!.. 2011-01-14- 08:15:44 
K6JEB
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Location: El Sobrante, California
 
Forum : General
Topic : Webinar was great!

Thanks for the explanation for bridging the two routers!

I've been hoping to create some buzz around this here at UC Berkeley's W6BB.  We've got some hams that are some real networking wizards so I think we'll get this figured-out.

Looking forward to showing some others what all the excitement is about.  :)

73!

Jack, K6JEB

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 Subject :Re:Webinar was great!.. 2011-01-14- 07:11:18 
K5KTF
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Topic : Webinar was great!

(HEY DAVE... Here I go down that rabbit hole :-) )

I have my 1 node normally on my LAN (its offline at this very moment), behind my regular D-Link router. The trick is, you have to change the LAN on the node FROM the 172.27.0.1 to a static IP of your LAN (mine being in the 192.168.0.X subnet).

Then, DISABLE the WAN on the node, and then a GATEWAY box will appear under the LAN settings. If your LAN uses 10.0.0.X, you are in for some hurt and headaches. I actually changed my entire LAN over to 192.168.0.X to make this work.

THEN, for machines on your LAN that you want to talk to the node, you have to add it to the routing tables (be it *nix or Windoze).

Against Dave AD5OO's better judgement (he prefers I dont confuse anyone with this stuff) , I am working on a thorough document how to set this up to work.

There will be some things that still wont happen (like having that node be a gateway for the rest of the mesh, as ONLY that 1st node will be able to talk out through the other router to get to the internet, like to get firmware updates, etc).

Unless you have a major Cisco router and can program it better than the home type routers (which I dont).

As for the Webinar video, we are currently working on getting it edited and posted to the site here. Check back in a while. Ill make sure to update the NEWS banner on the main page when its up and running.

73

Jim K5KTF

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 Subject :Re:Webinar was great!.. 2011-01-13- 18:01:34 
K6JEB
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Location: El Sobrante, California
 
Forum : General
Topic : Webinar was great!

I agree.  While I was watching the webinar I ordered a WRT54G v2 on EBay for $25 including shipping.  It arrived Tuesday and installing he new firmware was a snap.

I want to set this up with my AMPR.ORG IP address.  Has anyone else done this?  How to route the traffic to and from this IP to my normal Internet?

Also, is there a place to watch the video from the webinar again?  I think it's a must-see for folks getting into this and you really make it easy.  The PDF slides are great too!

73!

Jack, K6JEB

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 Subject :Re:Problem with my WRT54GL.. 2011-01-12- 13:23:24 
K5KTF
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Topic : Problem with my WRT54GL

Ahh, you seem to have found the little issue only some of us have found.... Try http://172.27.0.2:8080 :-) K5KTF
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 Subject :Problem with my WRT54GL.. 2011-01-12- 06:08:43 
W5NCD
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Topic : Problem with my WRT54GL

After successfully installing firmware V0.4.1 on my Linksys WRT54GLI was playing around with different configuration and changed from “mesh node” to “mesh access point.”

 Now I am unable to get back into setup using http://172.27.0.1:8080

What do I do now?

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 Subject :Webinar was great!.. 2011-01-08- 07:14:21 
K4RJJ
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Location: Dallas GA
Forum : General
Topic : Webinar was great!

Greetings all!

I saw the article on QRZ.com and registered.  This was very informative and shows that the developers have all done a great deal of work to make this so much more than I've seen in the past.

I hope to have at least 3 WRTs up and going soon. 1 at a high repeater site and 1 each in mobile and portable service.  If I understood the rules correctly there was to be no foriegn traffic on these.  Would that include any DX stations over Echolink?  I want to be able to use this to route Echolink to a high repeater site from a site we use now about 6 miles away that has good line of site.  We are now doing this on 440 but we want to put the 440 repeater on the tower as well and move data this way.  Is this within the rules?

BTW to the person that asked for the GPS logging there is a way to do it now.  Fire up Netstumbler and sort what you find by SSID.  It works great with most GPS RX.  I do look forward to seeing it in the firmware though. 

 

Ronny Julian

K4RJJ

Dallas GA

 

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 Subject :Why not 3 Ghz?.. 2010-12-29- 15:38:12 
N0FPF
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Topic : Why not 3 Ghz?

3.3Ghz - 3.5Ghz is a ham allocation, so why compete with the 2.4ghz?

http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/rocketm3_datasheet.pdf

Nothing like spectrum with a low noise floor!

 

Steve N0FPF

 

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 Subject :Re:2.3GHz band plan.. 2010-12-20- 14:10:31 
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Topic : 2.3GHz band plan

I had this all typed out...but it lost it, to summarize though, I'm no expert in devices outside of the standard 802.11 2.4GHz readily available and cheap devices out there...I would think cost being the only real factor, 900MHz equipment would be better I would assume for range, but I dunno all the laws around this, but to be up front I'm still learning the radio side of things rapidly, and already know the data/ip networking/etc side, and how to build embedded squashfs images, develop, etc. It's funny how I stumbled across this project a couple days ago by picking up a faint (-94dBm) ssid labeled hsmm-mesh, google revealed the rest - a project I've been wanting to start up for some time..drive down the price of global communication until it's free.
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 Subject :Re:WRT54G help.. 2010-11-21- 16:56:20 
K5KTF
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Forum : Firmware
Topic : WRT54G help

Starter projects could be as simple as having a IP cam on one node, and viewing it across the mesh to a PC on another node. Then if you had 2 PC's, setup file sharing and transfer files back and forth. My neighbor "likes to practice with file transfers from my 500GB 'music' share to his PC" ;-) ;-) If your IT guy brings in the book, READ IT. It may sometime seem a bit long in the tooth, but whatever you can gleam from it would be well worth it IMHO. (but then, Im a PC/network geek by trade anyways :-) ) The point here is, ANYTHING that can be done over a "regular" network can be done over Mesh. 73 KTF
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 Subject :Re:WRT54G help.. 2010-11-21- 16:44:06 
KI4UOE
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Topic : WRT54G help

K5KTF, I am new to the networking side of the world but great with the RF world. I really just want a small setup but everything I read engulfs me. To me, all lot of the documentation is for larger networks. Would you (or anyone) walk me though the setup for a really side mesh?

Here what I have:

two (2) WRT54G w/ HSMM-Mesh firmware

two (2) WRT54G w/ Linksys

old laptop w/o wireless

HP Mini wireless

What would be a starter project to begin? My man cave is on the 3rd floor with the old laptop and mini is on 1st. Just want to know the setting and a piece of software to run. I what to see it work, then build off of it.

Meanwhile, I have asked my ITC so many questions at work he is bring in his old book from school to shut me up.

Thanks

Josh

KI4UOE

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 Subject :Re:WRT54G help.. 2010-11-21- 15:41:13 
K5KTF
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Topic : WRT54G help

Hi Josh, You can do whatever you do on a standard TCP/IP network. Transfer files between PC's, hook up IP telephones, IP cameras, etc etc etc. But please do NOT use it for 'regular' internet access. That should be done outside of ham radio usage with normal routers, etc. Using the internet to update the firmware, maybe other ham-related activities, OK. But to just surf willy nilly, thats starting to cross the threshold of Part97. The real thing we need to happen is to get many more people to get working nodes, so we can all connect to each other and to the hospitals/EOC's/etc so we can have an emergency network up and going. As far as that goes, we are still in infancy. Now that the firmware works really well and fairly automagically, I hope more and more will come online. My neighbor and I transfer files, I log in to his nodes when he runs into an issue and help configure, test range, etc. I have ports open that he could send email or RMS Winlink email through, he can hit the web server, view my camera, etc. Just stuff to practice while we wait for others to get nodes up and going, so we can all get connected. If you have/find an application to use over the mesh, please post it to the forums (specific area for them) for all to see and get ideas. 73 Jim K5KTF
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