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 Subject :Flashing 'Vanilla' WRT54 Routers.. 2013-08-07- 06:53:14 
N4TTY
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How do you determine which of the two bin files (bbhn-1.0.0-wrt54g.bin and bbhn-1.0.0-wrt54g3g.bin) to use with each model of the WRT54 as shown in the "Shopping Guide?"  I had it figured out for the 0.4.3 files, but haven't discovered the secret for the bbhn files.

I'm trying to expand the "Simplified shopping list" to include the proper version of the bbhn.bin file with the listed model and version number of the WRT54.

Obviously if the WRT54 is already running 0.4.3 then it is best to just use the 'trx' file.

Steve G./N4TTY

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 Subject :Flashing 'Vanilla' WRT54 Routers.. 2013-08-07- 10:47:42 
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Isn't it clear from the right column of the Firmware Download Page?

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 Subject :Re:Flashing 'Vanilla' WRT54 Routers.. 2013-08-07- 11:43:34 
N4TTY
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Mickey I guess I'm easily confused as well, because the bbhn-1.0.0-wrt54g.bin has this in the right column: "firmware for a non-mesh wrt54g and wrt54gl," so I guess that covers all version of the G and GL models. But should I just 'assume' the bbhn-1.0.0-wrt54g3g.bin is for the GS model? The right hand column for that bin file doesn't say anything about a GS model, it just mentions a wrt54g3g, but I'm not clear on what that really means. Confused, Steve G./N4TTY
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 Subject :Re:Flashing 'Vanilla' WRT54 Routers.. 2013-08-07- 11:47:01 
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I said I was easily confused, but clicking on the link in your reply took me to a different "download page" than the one I came to that created my confusion. I retract my question about which version should be used for what model! Steve G./N4TTY
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 Subject :Re:Flashing 'Vanilla' WRT54 Routers.. 2013-08-07- 11:55:13 
N4TTY
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And to be perfectly clear, your link goes to a page with no scroll bar on the right, so you see all the files. While the link on the home page brings up a page with a scroll bar (in my browser anyway) and I somehow overlooked the scroll bar and didn't see the remaining files and all the descriptions to the right of each file.

The light has come on!

Steve G./N4TTY

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 Subject :Re:Flashing 'Vanilla' WRT54 Routers.. 2013-08-07- 12:08:09 
N4TTY
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But I guess I am still confused by the bbhn-1.0.0-wrt54g3g.bin.  What is the "g3g?"  Could it mean model "G" but version 3.0 or greater (i.e. 3.0, 3.1, & 4.0)?  Maybe the text to the right could be updated to be a little more descriptive.

Steve G./N4TTY

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 Subject :Flashing 'Vanilla' WRT54 Routers.. 2013-08-08- 04:02:27 
wx5u
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The WRT54G3G is an entirely different router.

Unfortunately, the WRT54G was so successful that Linksys made a whole lot of spinoffs and customized versions with confusingly similar names.  

Some are compatible, some are slightly different, some might be compatible, but haven't been figured out yet, some can be used, but require a different process, and some are known to be unusable. 

There might be a better way to document this on the web page, but that takes work, and you also run the risk of putting in so many words that it actually makes it more confusing.



[N4TTY 2013-08-07- 12:08:09]:

But I guess I am still confused by the bbhn-1.0.0-wrt54g3g.bin.  What is the "g3g?"  Could it mean model "G" but version 3.0 or greater (i.e. 3.0, 3.1, & 4.0)?  Maybe the text to the right could be updated to be a little more descriptive.

Steve G./N4TTY


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 Subject :Re:Flashing 'Vanilla' WRT54 Routers.. 2013-08-08- 05:20:32 
N4TTY
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Thanks Mickey, the light has finally come on!  I actually own one of these routers and don't remember seeing that the 0.4.3 HSMM-MESH software was available for it.  Was it?  Now I'm going to have to add it to my growing collection of Broadband-Hamnet routers.  Don't use it for anything else since I gave up the account for it's AT&T PCMCIA 3G card.  Does the Broadband-Hamnet software connect to the 3G card if it is active?  Not that I'll probably ever reinstate it ever again.

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 Subject :Re:Re:Flashing 'Vanilla' WRT54 Routers.. 2013-08-08- 06:45:54 
wx5u
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I don't know if the 3G card would work, but I REALLY doubt it will work.  I think the Broadband-Hamnet™ prepackaged images are pretty much one software image for the Broadcom router and associated hardware with some packaging to make it pass checksums on the different versions of vendor firmware. The 3G hardware is probably going to require some firmware that will be wiped out if you load BBHN on the WRT54g3g.

That also brings up another concern.  If you don't have a .bin image for the original firmware, you won't be able to restore your router to factory condition if you try to flash BBHN to it.   We know where the firmware is for the "mundane" WRT54G models, but you may not find it for the weird models.  Plan ahead if you want to be able to back out. 

I think the same router models were available for HSMM-MESH as for BBHN. 

All I know about model compatibility is what's listed on the firmware download page, and the supported hardware list

I don't think there are a lot of installations on hardware other than WRT54G, GL, and GS models.





[N4TTY 2013-08-08- 05:20:32]:

Thanks Mickey, the light has finally come on!  I actually own one of these routers and don't remember seeing that the 0.4.3 HSMM-MESH software was available for it.  Was it?  Now I'm going to have to add it to my growing collection of Broadband-Hamnet routers.  Don't use it for anything else since I gave up the account for it's AT&T PCMCIA 3G card.  Does the Broadband-Hamnet software connect to the 3G card if it is active?  Not that I'll probably ever reinstate it ever again.

Steve G./N4TTY


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